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	<title>Comments on: The War Against Nurses Part II</title>
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		<title>By: Night of the Living Link &#171; Adventures of a Funky Heart!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Night of the Living Link &#171; Adventures of a Funky Heart!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Patient attacks four nurses. Nurse/Victim/Witness testifies in court and tells the Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Truth, so help her God. The Victim Impact Statement was a real party, too: &#8220;Mr. Jailbird’s attorney stood up and started screaming something about HIPAA. The judge told her to sit down and to be quiet.&#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Patient attacks four nurses. Nurse/Victim/Witness testifies in court and tells the Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Truth, so help her God. The Victim Impact Statement was a real party, too: &#8220;Mr. Jailbird’s attorney stood up and started screaming something about HIPAA. The judge told her to sit down and to be quiet.&#8220; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wounded Healer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wounded Healer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds very disturbing and frightening.  Thankfully you or no one else was harmed.  I&#039;m amazed that you have the courage to continue.  Good work.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Btw, I&#039;m a new nursing student blogger.  I&#039;ve added a link to your blog.  Could you return the favor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds very disturbing and frightening.  Thankfully you or no one else was harmed.  I&#8217;m amazed that you have the courage to continue.  Good work.</p>
<p>Btw, I&#8217;m a new nursing student blogger.  I&#8217;ve added a link to your blog.  Could you return the favor?</p>
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		<title>By: 5 Wester</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 Wester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi MJ,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m glad you&#039;re OK. Yup, stuff like this do happen (I&#039;ve been in on the receiving end before). Hospital administration need to provide a safer work environment by not accepting this patient back into the unit. Either that or maybe they can take care of this patient themselves. Stay safe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi MJ,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re OK. Yup, stuff like this do happen (I&#8217;ve been in on the receiving end before). Hospital administration need to provide a safer work environment by not accepting this patient back into the unit. Either that or maybe they can take care of this patient themselves. Stay safe!</p>
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		<title>By: overactive-imagination</title>
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		<dc:creator>overactive-imagination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG MJ. I&#039;m so sorry this happened to you and your co-workers. I can only imagine how scary that must have been. Even as just a tech at this point, I&#039;ve had patients curse at me, try to grab me when I got close enough to their restraints and threaten me but I just can&#039;t imagine this.&lt;br/&gt;*I* am ticked that your manager would even think of taking this man back on to your floor. That&#039;s ridiculous. If he&#039;s sick them I&#039;m sure they have a cell in the local jail that can hand him his meds through a set of bars.&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m glad everyone is okay. This really bites and quite honestly, scares the hell out of me.&lt;br/&gt;Hugs&lt;br/&gt;Dawn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG MJ. I&#8217;m so sorry this happened to you and your co-workers. I can only imagine how scary that must have been. Even as just a tech at this point, I&#8217;ve had patients curse at me, try to grab me when I got close enough to their restraints and threaten me but I just can&#8217;t imagine this.<br />*I* am ticked that your manager would even think of taking this man back on to your floor. That&#8217;s ridiculous. If he&#8217;s sick them I&#8217;m sure they have a cell in the local jail that can hand him his meds through a set of bars.<br />I&#8217;m glad everyone is okay. This really bites and quite honestly, scares the hell out of me.<br />Hugs<br />Dawn</p>
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		<title>By: JustCallMeJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustCallMeJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my god, MJ.  I&#039;m so glad that you&#039;re all right.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You continue to raise hell until the sonofab!tch is put behind bars.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think that the administration is so used to us nurses being accustomed to having patients be violent with us that they don&#039;t see that it actually isn&#039;t our jobs to be nice to continually violent attackers.  &lt;br/&gt;/jo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god, MJ.  I&#8217;m so glad that you&#8217;re all right.</p>
<p>You continue to raise hell until the sonofab!tch is put behind bars.</p>
<p>I think that the administration is so used to us nurses being accustomed to having patients be violent with us that they don&#8217;t see that it actually isn&#8217;t our jobs to be nice to continually violent attackers.  <br />/jo</p>
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		<title>By: Big 'N Tasty RPH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big 'N Tasty RPH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unit should invest in some police grade long distance tasers for you so the next time someone attacks you can zap the shit out of him.  I am also partial to the death penalty for violent crime....and long stays away from work that include paid time off, psychiatric counseling, and alcohol.  I feel your pain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unit should invest in some police grade long distance tasers for you so the next time someone attacks you can zap the shit out of him.  I am also partial to the death penalty for violent crime&#8230;.and long stays away from work that include paid time off, psychiatric counseling, and alcohol.  I feel your pain!</p>
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		<title>By: Doreen Orion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doreen Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could say this is unbelievable, but since my husband and I have both worked on psych units, I know it&#039;s not. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Issues,&quot; indeed. Whatever happened to &quot;responsibility&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could say this is unbelievable, but since my husband and I have both worked on psych units, I know it&#8217;s not. </p>
<p>&#8220;Issues,&#8221; indeed. Whatever happened to &#8220;responsibility&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.google.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nice post&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.google.com" REL="nofollow">Nice post</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cinder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment on update,WTF!!&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m speechless!!&lt;br/&gt;Please follow through w/ the states attorney.Does your hospital want mass casualties in their unit or what?!What are they thinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment on update,WTF!!<br />I&#8217;m speechless!!<br />Please follow through w/ the states attorney.Does your hospital want mass casualties in their unit or what?!What are they thinking!</p>
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		<title>By: FatwaGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>FatwaGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and your co-workers need to get together and chip in for an hour of time with a labor lawyer.  It doesn&#039;t sound like your union is being helpful so I suggest you do this on your own.  You need to find out what your rights are with respect to workers compensation, and what employers can do to you.  I think most employers keep incident reports, even if an employee doesn&#039;t have an injury requiring treatment and it might be illegal for them not to keep these records.  You need to find out from this lawyer what OSHA and your state equivalent require by way of incident reports.  You also need to find out what sort of retaliation on the part of the employer is legal and isn&#039;t.  Most isn&#039;t if you are just trying to file a workers compensation claim.  And you need to file a claim, even if it&#039;s just for a band-aid, every single stinking time you get hurt on the job.  Your goal should be to drive up their workers comp rates to the point that it is cheaper for them to hire guards, and I don&#039;t think it would take too long to do that.  (I say that because frequency of claims will get an underwriter&#039;s attention more than severity because every little claim has the potential to blow up to a big one.)  But you are going to have to arm yourselves with knowledge and be willing to fight back.  If you&#039;re unionized, and unless your union is completely useless, you can get what you need just by knowing how to work the system back against your employer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and your co-workers need to get together and chip in for an hour of time with a labor lawyer.  It doesn&#8217;t sound like your union is being helpful so I suggest you do this on your own.  You need to find out what your rights are with respect to workers compensation, and what employers can do to you.  I think most employers keep incident reports, even if an employee doesn&#8217;t have an injury requiring treatment and it might be illegal for them not to keep these records.  You need to find out from this lawyer what OSHA and your state equivalent require by way of incident reports.  You also need to find out what sort of retaliation on the part of the employer is legal and isn&#8217;t.  Most isn&#8217;t if you are just trying to file a workers compensation claim.  And you need to file a claim, even if it&#8217;s just for a band-aid, every single stinking time you get hurt on the job.  Your goal should be to drive up their workers comp rates to the point that it is cheaper for them to hire guards, and I don&#8217;t think it would take too long to do that.  (I say that because frequency of claims will get an underwriter&#8217;s attention more than severity because every little claim has the potential to blow up to a big one.)  But you are going to have to arm yourselves with knowledge and be willing to fight back.  If you&#8217;re unionized, and unless your union is completely useless, you can get what you need just by knowing how to work the system back against your employer.</p>
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