Sanity is madness put to good use. – George Santayana

This weekend a man came to my unit and rang the doorbell a half an hour before visiting hours were to start. I opened the unit door and a large burly man wearing sunglass and a dark suit asked me if a certain patient was on my unit. Of course I told him that I couldn’t say who was on my unit because of HIPAA. Without smiling, the man reached into his pocket and pulled out his ID. He was from the CIA. Then he repeated himself and waited for my answer. I looked at the badge and the picture on his ID, and then I asked the man if he had official or personal business on my unit. His eyes dropped to the floor. He stammered and said that he came to the hospital because he wanted to visit his neighbor. I told him that was very nice, but that he was going to have to wait until it was time for visiting hours just like everyone else. I also let him know that due to hospital policy, he was going to have to secure his weapon with security before he could come onto the unit. He protested. “ But I’m with the CIA!” he said. I smiled. “I know you’re with the CIA, but I’m the charge nurse.” I won.
I don’t care who you are. Never get into a power struggle with a charge nurse.
Elaine
March 9th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Bravo. That’s telling him!
Kim
March 9th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Fishy. Are you sure he wasn’t another prospective patient?
CIA employees don’t go around telling people that they work for the CIA, and they certainly don’t go around flashing their badges. It’s just “not done.” Using the badge to attempt access to your facility is also an ethics and security breach that would earn him some unpleasant face time with the people that adjudicate security clearances. FURTHERMORE, it brings discredit upon an agency that must comply with clearly defined legal requirements regarding any activities related to US entities.
Did you actually see a weapon or did you assume he had one? That’s a whole other ball of wax.
If he shows up again, I strongly recommend a call to security and to the local FBI field office. Something ain’t right.
Strong One
March 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
That simply rocks! Way to go MJ!
peter j
March 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Ah – magic!!
How I remember the days – acute female admission…
Nice one
PJ
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peter j
March 9th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
P.S. Just noticed – can we swap blog links?
Mother Jones, RN
March 9th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Hi Kim, I have to admit that Mr. CIA raised a lot of red flags when he started flashing his badge in front of my face. I thought those kind of people were really hush-hush. I spoke to my patient after Mr. CIA left the unit. My patient confirmed that Mr. CIA really works for THEM. Regardless, I had a long talk with head of security before I left the unit about what had happened on my shift. And, no, I didn’t see a gun. I just wanted to make sure that he didn’t have one on him when he came onto the unit. The whole thing was really strangle.
Mother Jones, RN
March 9th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Hi Kim, I have to admit that Mr. CIA raised a lot of red flags when he started flashing his badge in front of my face. I thought those kind of people were really hush-hush. I spoke to my patient after Mr. CIA left the unit. My patient confirmed that Mr. CIA really works for THEM. Regardless, I had a long talk with head of security before I left the unit about what had happened on my shift. And, no, I didn’t see a gun. I just wanted to make sure that he didn’t have one on him when he came onto the unit. The whole thing was really strange.
Candace Calvert
March 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I never fail to find (hospital) truth stranger than fiction–even mine. You gave me a flashback to the “Navy Seal” we treated in our ER. Kept telling us he was “trained to kill”–and the look in his eyes (even while in 4 point restraints) didn’t leave room for doubt. He wasn’t a Seal . . . but he inspired the fastest injection of anti-psychotic I’ve ever administered.
Adrienne Zurub
March 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
You go grrl! I’m so proud of you for holding your ground and not knuckling under to anything as puny as the CIA.
As you well know … we fight bigger fish everyday!
Kudos!
Adrienne Zurub
enrico
March 9th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
I agree w/Kim–CIA don’t advertise usually (unless they are really low-level in which case it’s that much less of an issue) but the real problem is flashing CIA badge to see a patient when 1) it’s irrelevant that they work for the CIA (even for nat’l security reasons, someone in US is outside thier mandate), and 2) the person in room #302 is Jesus Christ and he said it wasn’t allowed.
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Kim
March 11th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Good for you for not getting cowed by a badge!
Enrico’s comment reminded of the time I had two “Jesus Christs” on my psych unit. They got along famously (seriously!) and never caused any trouble. Probably kept out the I-think-I’m-Satan crowd!
Chuck R.
March 12th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Kim, so what would happen if one guy says he’s Jesus, and the other says he’s Satan? Would they play chess together?
The Curmudgeon
March 17th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
It’s a great story… even if his spy credentials were bogus.
Of course, we had a 14-year old recently pass as a Chicago police office for five hours of an eight-hour shift. He showed up in most of a uniform, said he was temporarily assigned from another district… and they put him to work.
I wonder if he might not be related to Mr. CIA…..
Columbine 101
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Next time respond by telling him that you’re with the FCC and he’s obviously got to work on his communications skils.
J Renaud
April 5th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Thanks for this story.
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